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		<title>Time for an update on my CAD/CAM experiences</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Freeman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[CAD/CAM]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[One model engineer describes his experiences when learning how to use Cad packages in particular BObCad and TurboCad]]></description>
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<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">I feel I should update you all as to where I am with my CAD/CAM experience and designing my own engine. Not very far I have to say. </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">I bought at for me, great expense, BobCad<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>CAD software. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They seemed far more focused on selling than supporting as far as I was concerned and whilst I did like there 3D side it was transferring the models to 2D drawing sheets that I couldn’t sort out. Without answering my many request and being fed up with the sales people who were told my views on support (they promised to pass on my remarks and help request) I could get no where. </span></span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">As someone once said if you keep banging your head against a wall you eventually find out that it hurts! </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">In the end I took the salesman’s advice when purchasing BobCad “you could always sell it on eBay as its all yours” (yes he did!) I did just that and listed it on eBay. I did not recover all my costs, but the biggest part, so looked for a cheap 2D drawing package. My confidence in software salesman taking a large knock I decided I would not go for such an expensive solution since I have cooled on the idea of CNC.</span></span> <span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">I saw a version of <a href="http://www.turbocad.co.uk/">TurboCad</a> 14 deluxe on eBay for under £30 so sent off for it straight away. </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">When it arrived with a full training support CD system I thought it was a bargain. It would certainly do all the 2D stuff I wanted but it also does 3D. Whilst it is not as good as BobCad for 3D modeling it was only around a tenth of the price! So I then started to learn a whole new program. When it came to doing some of the tasks I wanted after becoming slightly more proficient, I discovered the natural limitations of the deluxe version. </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">When searching out forums, the internet in general it seemed that upgrading it to a premium version was the way to go(where have I heard that before!) however I wasn’t going to fork out several hundred pounds again but I found an American supplier of TurboCad version 12 premium for about a $100 or so and that’s what I have now. I shall sell the version 14 deluxe soon so if anyone’s interested then email me.</span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">I am now going to put all my efforts into learning how to use TurboCad 12 premium and have already produced some plans for small items in the workshop. At present I am working on a tool height setting fixture for setting the diameter of an in line boring tool (need it for the <a href="http://www.mikes-models.com/seal.html">Seal build</a>) based loosely on another’s design. A plan of the ball turning tool I made for the chess set featured in <a href="http://www.myhobbystore.com/">Model Engineer magazine</a> (issues 4345, 4346 and 4347) to accompany a build article that may be published some time in the future. </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">So you see the engine design is going to be later in the year before real progress is made. Indeed it may be a case of building parts, that will be drawn up later, and others that may be drawn first. Something I may not be alone in doing……Experience and a better understanding of CAD may lead me away from this approach……..time will as ever, tell!</span></span></p>
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		<title>An enjoyable morning sat at the lathe</title>
		<link>http://mikes-models.com/blog/index.php/2008/09/an-enjoyable-morning-sat-at-the-lathe/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Freeman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[General engineering posts]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[IC model engines]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well for the time I was in the workshop I had a good day. I turned out some more part blank as shown in the photo below and didn't make any errors. Which for me is a major first only then to succombe to the 'old' health problem and stop. Still I did enjoy what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for the time I was in the workshop I had a good day. I turned out some more part blank as shown in the photo below and didn't make any errors. Which for me is a major first only then to succombe to the 'old' health problem and stop. Still I did enjoy what was a somewhat repititious exercise but I was bang on the button with the finished dimensions. Only another 7 blanks then I will start to turn them into cams.</p>
<p><img title="Cam blanks for Hit n Miss engine" src="http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r379/brixham-engineer/Hit%20n%20Miss/hitnmisscam21092008003.jpg" alt="Cam blanks for Hit n Miss engine" width="1024" height="640" /></p>
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		<title>Hit &#8216;n&#8217; Miss team engine build &#8211; HMEM 15 engines&#8230;&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://mikes-models.com/blog/index.php/2008/09/hit-n-miss-team-engine-build-hmem-15-engines/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Freeman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trials and tribulations when making 15 cams for a team of model enginners from the forum HMEM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been unwell for a few days, I finally got out into the workshop today. As always I get a little frustrated when kept out of the workshop, and the first session back is usually short, so I decided to have a go at a cam turning job.</p>
<p>I needed to make a turning fixture and bolt, then take a trial cut on a cam blank made before I was unwell. As it turned out I overdid it (no surprise!) because I wanted to complete the trial turning, to see what effect the method of turning made.</p>
<p>I have been using the Home Model Engine Machinist forum for a short while, and recommend it to any model engineer (link on links page <a href="http://www.mikes-models.com">www.mikes-models.com</a>) as they are very helpful particularly to new model engineers. One of the forums ideas I like is the team builds they have. This is where a group of people register their interest in building a model engine and then the parts required are split up between those involved.</p>
<p>I registered my interest late but they made room for me and asked if I would be interested in making the cam and a lever arm. I was happy to have a go at the came and may do the lever but felt that it would be better to do the cam first, then if the lever arm wasn't done, I could volunteer again. There are 15 engines being built and 13 members are involved, with one of the engines going to a museum and the second to charity. Although the total engine numbers is a little confusing, as my addition to the team build came late.</p>
<p>So onto the cam task itself.  This the first time I have had a go at turning any cam, even just a one lobe one like this build calls for. Therefore I decided that it would be best to make a trial one first then work out a production methodology. The turning of the cam blank was completed with little problems. The half methodology bringing the finished parts to within 0.001" for all three diameters.</p>
<p>Making the turning fixture went smoothly as did the securing bolt. So it was over to the lathe and the first cuts taken. Getting it to the dimension required went slowly, only because I kept checking the diameter to ensure I did not remove more than I should. Once the diameter size was met the plans and methodology called for the top slide to be fixed. I achieved this by clamping but am not sure if this is correct. I will be asking the forum for their comments.</p>
<p>It was then required to the move the cam, by between 5 and 10 degrees and this is where I made a major mistake! However what I was doing is with the aid of a 360 degree protractor, the fixture was turned approximately 5 degrees and then another cut made. So I continued moving the fixture with not the expected outcome. After four or five cuts I decided to recheck the instructions and found where I had gone wrong. It was the cam that needed turning. Obvious in hindsight, but thats as much about my performance level after recovery.</p>
<p>To make the turning of the cam blank easier I thought if I photocopied the protractor and then stuck that onto the fixture, with a mark on the cam blank, it would mean I could measure the 5 degrees succesfully. I must say I was surprised when the photocopies came out on how good they were! Well after doing all of this work I felt I should stop before starting the new cuts. So the position I will be at for tommorow is to be able to start cutting straight away. The cam blank is ruined because of the problems above but there is sufficient metal to be able to find out if the system above works. If it does, then the next stage of finding some production tips will start because there are 15 to make!</p>
<p>Oh how I do enjoy the exercise though!</p>
<p>Some photo's to aid the text above.............................</p>
<p>THE MAIN PARTS - FIXTURE, SECURING BOLT AND CAM BLANK</p>
<p><img title="main cam turning components" src="http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r379/brixham-engineer/Hit%20n%20Miss/hitnmisscam20092008010.jpg" alt="main components" width="624" height="468" /></p>
<p>THE FIRST ELIPITICAL CUTS......</p>
<p><img title="Cam turning for a hit n miss engine" src="http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r379/brixham-engineer/Hit%20n%20Miss/hitnmisscam20092008015.jpg" alt="Cam turning fixture" width="695" height="715" /></p>
<p>READY TO DO IT PROPERLY THIS TIME! (I HOPE!)</p>
<p><img title="Cam turning fixture with trial cam" src="http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r379/brixham-engineer/Hit%20n%20Miss/hitnmisscam20092008036.jpg" alt="CAM TURNING FXTURE" width="624" height="587" /></p>
<p>For more information please goto <a href="http://www.mikes-models.com">http://www.mikes-models.com</a></p>
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