New project – a saw/grinding centre started to my own design

 

Carbide tipped saws have been recommended for metal work in the past, especially when they are slitting saw size. In the UK I couldn’t find a supplier of small blades but a HMEM forum member (from Canada) sent me some blades to try. There are some really nice people in the model engineering fraternity. I am sending a traction engine book back to Canada (as soon as it comes back into Amazon stock!) but thanks are in order.

Instead of just trying the blade in my slitting saw arbor I thought I would bring forward an idea I had about building a saw table. The reason I wanted to trial the carbide tipped saws was to cut a round bar in half so I can make two crankshafts for the Seal build. Since the camshafts have now been made the next major item for the Seals is the crankshafts, so you can see all roads in fact led to the saw table.

Since I don’t sleep very well I often ponder designs during the night, scribbling down some drawings at my 0600ish breakfasts. I started by writing out the design criteria at one of these breakfasts, with the aim of making some CAD drawings, leading to a set of plans (Alibre) which could be made available on my website.  So this particular project covers many areas of interest for me. Such as making a workshop tool, using CAD, and helping with the Seal twin engine project. Not a bad result really.

The design criteria covered such things as having two blade sizes (the larger ones found in the UK as well as the smaller ones from Canada) so it would be useful to be able to use both blades on the same machine. The blade depth of cut should be adjustable and by a measured amount. The top should be as adaptable as possible, allowing the safe holding of materials. The blades should have some form of safety guard and make use of an existing electric motor I have.

 

Spare electric motor for the saw table

 

Other ideas will no doubt come up as I progress, especially in the area of the work holding. I don’t feel confident enough yet to just draw the design out in 3D CAD. Rather it will be a bit of both, build and the use of Alibre CAD. The help in laying out the plan I used some foam rubber/plastic as a former to check the size of the saw arm and the quadrant. By using these materials in a mock up I discovered my initial quadrant lever would not work so a new shape was soon cut out and tried.

saw arm and quadrant

Since I have several ¼” (0.250” or 6.35mm) sheets of aluminum ‘recovered’ from my local scrap yard I wanted to use these to make a strong box shaped saw table (please see photo).The first task was to check the speed of the electric motor. I have a rev counter which measures revolutions from model aero engines and made up a temporary shaft to hold the Mills propeller. The measured speed was approximately 1200 rpm. The saw blades run at around a maximum 6000 rpm so I needed to increase the speed from the motor.

I had a look at the spare gears from the Myford and there were both 20 tooth and 65 tooth gears that can be used.  That should give me around 4,000 to 5,000 rpm at the blade. With these speeds I decided that all pulleys will have bearings and it was whilst searching for bearings I saw a diamond grinding wheel that would also fit the design. So I ordered the bearings and the diamond cutting wheel.

Now the project has turned into a versatile saw and grinding table which longer term I would also like to develop to grind camshafts in the future. Madness you may say (and you may well be right!) but if you take the saw table top as a base for holding various fixtures, then it should be an ongoing (maybe years) development for my own tool centre.

The rough design schematic is shown in the photo below to help you understand where I am going. To make the blade/grinding wheel adjustable I will use a quadrant with teeth cut into it, matching with teeth on the saw/grinding wheel arm. With the screw thread used for adjustments I should be able to make fine and measured cuts. Since this movement involves the arm then the pulleys will need to have a tensioning system to take up the difference.

Schematic of basic design of saw/grinding centre

Since I hope to have the tool for many years I will also be looking at the materials used, for example the saw arm needs to have a guide and clamp to secure it when any adjustment has been made. Just cutting through the aluminum wouldn’t really serve long term so I am letting into the plate a brass section (made from two lengths of square bar silver soldered together).

The drive belt I shall be using is circular in cross section and the two ends are ‘welded’ together (see photo), access to the belt as well as the gears (in case I need them on the Myford) and saw/grinding wheel needs be incorporated for change of belt, blades or now the additional grinding wheel.

Drive belt

Leaving design for a moment I made a start on the main pulley that will hold either the larger saw blade on one section or the smaller blade or the diamond grind wheel on another, since they have the same bore. The front of this pulley will have two diameters for the blades/wheel and the rear of the pulley will contain a sealed bearing.

So far the pulley has been turned to outside diameter and the belt groove done (photo). The bore has been drilled and reamed with a start made on the bearing housing but was put to one side whilst the bearings were ordered (arrived in just two days!). Hence a start being made on the saw arm using a ¼” (0.250 or 6.35mm) thick piece of flat steel.

pulley for saw/grinding centre

I am happy using the DRO’s to co-ordinate the machining of parts but I still like to mark out the design to make sure I am in the right place as it were. So after marking out the arm, the rotary table was secured to the milling table and a start made in cutting the small end of the arm (photo). When it came to the larger end I had to make new clamps so the complete part of the diameter could be milled and that is where the project was left at the end of the latest session.

small end of saw arm

Tomorrow I hope to complete the arm profile and maybe the inserts and perhaps the saw head pulley. I don’t expect to spend too much time on the basic saw table, before switching to the Fowler Traction engine before going back to the pair of Seal 4 cylinder petrol engines.

I have finally decided that these are the three main projects I will concentrate on over the next couple of months and try to keep other engineering ‘distractions’ at bay. Again, time will tell……..

About Mike Freeman

Hello, my name is Mike Freeman and I am a retired Chief Fire Officer from the United Kingdom with a keen interest in model engineering, silver caddy spoons and sea fishing. I live in the pretty fishing port of Brixham, South Devon, in the United Kingdom. I am a sufferer of degenerative osteoarthritis, which impacts on the amount of time I can spend in the workshop, and is the reason why you will see seats and a stool in some of the photo's. I have only recently added the above sentence after a discussion with one of my Doctor's from the excellent pain clinic, based in Torbay. This does affect concentration one of the reasons why I double then re-double my measurements and set ups. Before completing nearly 30 years of public service I and my wife Sandy, owned and ran, a small restaurant in Okehampton Devon. Prior to marriage I worked for my father in his various businesses, in the early days these were garages, which he bought in a run down state, then built them up before moving on, to start again. I took every opportunity in those early days, to work in his workshop's learning 'on the job' rather than as an apprentice. This, I suspect, is the reason why my building various model's in the early days, turned into model engineering, when funds allowed the required equipment to be bought. My workshop comprises one half of a detached double garage. It has a stud wall separating the two halves and unusually perhaps, its own shower/toilet/washbasin compartment! (the true reason for buying the bungalow - don't tell the wife!!!) It is fully insulated with a ceiling and fluorescent lighting supplementing the one window. Several double electrical sockets are dotted around in relevant positions. Equipment consists of 2 lathes (1 Myford ML 10 and 1 Chinese variable speed motor with etched glass DRO's), 1 milling machine (RF25 far East) floor standing pillar drill, Proxxon bandsaw, Warco bandsaw, 6" wire brush and polishing mop motor, 6" coarse and fine grinder, Proxxon mini drill, various benches and an engineers vice. I have just acquired a third lathe, a Myford ML7 which I am at present evaluating so I can decide which of the Myford's I will keep. I have only just bought the Chinese lathe and had it fitted with DRO's prior to delivery. And what a bonus they are! So good in fact that I decided to buy another set for the Milling machine. Whilst my engineering experience can only be described as limited, I find the use of DRO's has affected my accuracy levels which have improved tremendously (although that's not saying much!) and would recommend their fitting to any model engineer. Prior to retirement I built for my son's 17th birthday a Locost car. This was a tremendous project and a great feeling when it passed its test. The book it was based on suggests it can be built for £250. Ours was nothing special in the sense of all new parts but still cost about £900 to build!
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