I created ash with the ash pan for the Fowler today!
The ash I am talking about came form the burning of the sacrificial board when silver soldering the top edge to the pan itself!
Today's ash pan session was spent by soldering up the four corners using the highest temperature silver solder I had. The reasoning being that I could use a lower melting point for the connection of the top edge to the
ash pan.

After the corners were done I decided to place the ash pan into the pickle solution whilst I chain drilled the copper sheet being used for the top edge. Once the drilling was completed the sheet of copper was
taken to the Proxxon bandsaw and the inside cut out.


To hold the ashpan in place a couple of heavy steel blocks was placed on top and then lengths of silver solder cut and placed against the edge of the ashpan and into the flux.
The ash pan itself was then heated with the propane torch, bringing the ash pan to cherry red, where upon the solder rod melts itself and flows between the joint.
It is important that the flame does not impinge on the solder rod itself, melting it before the surrounding metal is ready. I started work on the left hand corner, moving the flame around to the otherside when the solder started to flow.
The ashpan unit was allowed to cool before placing it into the pickle solution. After cleaning up a little, the ash pan was then placed onto the up turned boiler and pleasingly the holes and pins were still aligned.



December 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Just done my first lot of brazing this weekend and some of the brass is coloured pink like your copper above. Is that the flux? Will the pickle sort that out? What is the pickle made of?
December 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Hello Andy, have a look at this link on my website http://www.mikes-models.com/silversoldering.html The effects you are seeing are correct. The pickling bath I use is based on citric acid.
Chronos (UK) have a couple of products that might be of interest to you,. Here is a link http://www.mikes-models.com/silversoldering.html they have a pickle but also a surface conditioner that cleans and preserves, although I have never used that product.
If you put the part in a pickle solution for 30 minutes then wash in clean water, it should clean up to bright metal with a wire brush. I will post a picture of the ash pan tomorrow just before painting for you to see.
In answer to your specific questions, yes the pink is due to the flux and shows how effective the flux was. The pickle will sort it out and should be done to prevent the corrosive nature of the flux from taking effect. My pickle solution is based on citric acid and is a commercial product.
Hope this helps. Why not send me some photo’s and I will post them here.
Kindest regards, Mike.